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2008-04-06 - Cops Enter Polygamist Sect's Temple Posted: 1 hour ago Filed Under: Nation News

May 12 - http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/05/12/flds.letter/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

  • FLDS elder sends letter to President Bush detailing the gross violations of human rights and due process
  • Elder calls the raid a terrorist act by local officials who pretend to protect the public, but are instead driven by anti-FLDS crusaders
  • Children confiscated from children enmass, so authorities could better interrogate the children
April 25 - http://www.captivefldschildren.org/Videos.php
  • Michael Savage:
    • Because the women in texas don't dress like sluts, the media, who dress like sluts, are spitting on them....
    • This story bothers me a great deal.
    • A young man asked me at the DMV, 'are you in favor of poligamy?' I said that is not the issue. What is at stake here is the constitutionality of the act by the Texas Rangers.
    • The liberals aren't up in arms because they are against normalcy. Polygamy is a patriarchy. All of the left wing is against the patriarchy. This is a big one.
  • Mothers separated from the under 5 years old children - http://news.aol.com/story/_a/sect-mothers-small-children-separated/20080425063309990001#cmntbgn
    • Comments:
      • Anybody else out there getting a bad feeling about all this ? I don't just mean about the kids either...like that maybe some folks don't like the fact that these folks are white ? Maybe too white, and that maybe just possibly this isn't their first time to have something like this happen ? I remeber when the age of consent in Ohio was 13..., and I'm not advocating that..., but I sort of think maybe it could be about time to stop bothering these folks ???? Like just maybe there might be a few more important things to do than destroy these folks's way of life...If WE push them too far WE won't need to look in Afghanistan for our next bit of trouble...It is time to stop pursecuting white guys....
      • Right, so these children weren't already hurting? You are so naive and ignorant to believe that these cultists are good, religious people. This is a CULT run by PERVERTED OLD MEN who think its just dandy to have sex with minors. The truth will come out and just then how will you defend this sickness.
      • I hope no one in my neighborhood calls for help. They may come and take every child in the entire subdivision.......
      • These poor children and parents. Texas has destroyed the lives of over 400 children and their families.....
      • I have seen this kind of jackbooted action before. It was in Germany - 1939. God save us all.
      • There are people who have escaped from these kind of "compounds" who have stated very clearly that they were brainwashed into believing those outside the group would kill them. These women are victims but they are not idiots and have the opportunity to get out. You can be chaste and be common and not be subject to the will of old horney men. The blood tests and investigation will reveal who the men are. These men will go to jail, where they belong.
      • The women haven't been accused of anything so why are they being punished?
      • Very sad and a dangerous precedent when you start separating mothers from their own children..
  • Research about discreet domains (discrete domains): http://www.blogpi.net/register-your-discontent-ii-speculating-about-the-speculators
April 18 - Judge repeatedly asking lawyers to "get to the point" and prove why the children should be allowed to go home. The lawyers keep asking what is the process for them to prove this, and the CPS workers say that psychological testing will be required. In other words:
  • We (the CPS) don't have enough evidence to keep all the children, we need the psychologists to manufacture some evidence
  • Now that we have the children, we're (the judge) not required to ask what solid evidence do we have to prove we must keep every one of these 416 children away from home. We forget the constitution requires that people are innocent until proven guilty, we can now flip it upside down and demand that parents prove their innocence.
  • The longer we (the CPS) keep the children away from their home and parents, and expose them to TV, commerce, and every other "normal" American thing, perhaps some of them will start answering our "have you been abused" questions the way we want them to answer.
April 17 - AP - Texas police (including Midland County Sheriff) search for a 16-year-old mother who reported abuse at a secretive polygamist sect's compound in West Texas. A 50-year-old man is accused of marrying the girl and getting her pregnant. The overnight development follows a raid Friday in which authorities removed nearly 200 women and children.... The hearing disintegrated quickly into a barrage of shouted objections and attempts to file motions, with lawyers for the children objecting to objections made by the parents' attorneys. When the judge sustained an objection to the prolonged questioning the state trooper, the lawyers cheered.... Texas District Judge Barbara Walther refused to put medical records and other evidence in electronic form, which could be e-mailed among the lawyers, because it contained personal information. A courier had to run from the courthouse to the auditorium delivering one document at a time.... Department of Public Safety Sgt. Danny Crawford testified to DPS's discovery of a church bishop's records taken from a safe at the ranch that listed about 38 families, some of them polygamous and some that included wives 16 or 17 years old. But under repeated cross-examination, Crawford acknowledged the records contained no evidence of sexual abuse.... Walther signed an emergency order nearly two weeks ago giving the state custody of the children after a 16-year-old girl called an abuse hot line claiming her husband, a 50-year-old member of the sect, beat and raped her. The girl has yet to be identified.... The judge and child "welfare" workers are keeping the children imprisoned in a domed coliseum in San Angelo. They range in age from 6 months to 17 years in age. Roughly 100 of them are under 4. Gov. Rick Perry would not say how much the case is costing the state, but said: "Does the state of Texas have the resources? Absolutely we do."

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  • Midland County Sheriff
  • Judge Barbara Walther
  • Court located in Tom Green County - San Angelo
  • Officials on the raid: Schleicher County Sheriff's Office and the Texas Rangers
  • Officials steal cell phones from captive polygamist wives - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24097512/
    • Judge feared witness tampering; ruling also affects children
    • Sun., April. 13, 2008
      • SAN ANGELO, Texas - State officials on Sunday enforced a judge's order and confiscated the cell phones of the women and children removed from a polygamous sect's private ranch in West Texas.
      • Attorneys for 18 girls from the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints who are in the legal custody of the state had sought the order, said Marissa Gonzalez, a spokeswoman for Texas Child Protective Services.
      • The attorneys reasoned that cutting off communications would "prevent the possible tampering of witnesses," Gonzalez said, reading from the court document.

Bio on Judge Barbara Walther:
  • Name: Barbara Lane Walther.
  • Age: 55.
  • Hometown: San Angelo.
  • Family: Husband, Steven; two grown children.
  • Education: Bachelor of Arts, University of Texas, 1974; J.D., Southern Methodist University Dedman School of Law, 1977.
  • Occupation: Judge, Texas' 51st District Court.

April 17 - SAN ANGELO, Texas (April 17) - A court hearing to decide the fate of the 416 children swept up in a raid on a West Texas polygamist sect descended into farce Thursday, with hundreds of lawyers in two packed buildings shouting objections and the judge struggling to maintain order

April 14 - Sect members gatheered at temporary housing last week. When authorities took the children from the compound, 139 women went with them. But on Monday, officials ordered all the women away, except for those with children under age 5

April 13 - Almost 400 women and children being detained by authorities in shelters. When some of the mothers use their cell phones to call news organizations to report that the conditions are crowded, children are scared, inconsolable and want to go home, the authorities confiscate all the cell phones.

April 4 - Agents said that during their search of the FLDS' vast compound, they found a bed in the sect's temple, that prosecutors believe was used by men to have sex with underage girls after marriage ceremonies

April 4 - Hundreds of women and children removed from the compound on busses.

April 4 - Another FLDS photo shows the armored vehicle, a tracked vehicle that looks like a small tank without the turret, was used as a precaution and to remove someone from the ranch, not to force entry onto the property, said a Texas law enforcement spokeswoman. The raid was prompted by a complaint from a teenage girl who said her 50-year-old husband had raped and beaten her. Authorities have not been able to find any proof that the 16-year-old actually exists, and some now believe the phone call from the girl was actually a prank call to authorities from outside the compound.

April 4 - A picture shows a police officer with a sniper riffle takes a position at the compound April 4. Sect members took notes and photos and recorded video during the seven-day raid on the compound. They reacted to the raid "by singing and praying," said the attorney, Rod Parker. Police seized much of the documentation, he said.

April 3 - A sheriff's department armored vehicle waits near the compound April 3. The photo was taken by an unidentified FLDS members. It was one of three photos released Tuesday by an attorney for the group. After the police were allowed to enter the compound, most of the documentation the group made about the seige was confiscated.

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